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Of the many ways that one could spend a Friday evening in Paris, competing in a third-place play-off would rank somewhere near the bottom, perhaps just above a night-time stumble into a particularly nasty section of the Seine bingo
However much World Rugby dresses up what it insists on calling the bronze final, there is no escaping the fact that most players would, at this stage, rather be back at home with a bottle of beer, or enjoying some downtime with a verre de vin rouge in a Paris bistro bingo
“This is not the game you want to be playing in,” England assistant Richard Wigglesworth conceded this week bingo
“You can be honest and say this isn’t the game that these two teams aimed to play in bingo
“But we could already be at home, and we’re not bingo
If you’re asking where would you rather be, you’d rather be here participating in a World Cup bingo
”For England’s players, the manner of defeat to South Africa has made this week more difficult still bingo
Steve Borthwick’s side had the game within their grasp last weekend, the pain of a defeat of fine margins clear both on Saturday night and beyond, full-back Freddie Steward almost overcome with emotion when speaking on Tuesday bingo
Even if they will, in time, take confidence from the performance, imbued with the certainty that they can mix it with the world’s best, Friday night’s fixture will represent something of a comedown from a night when it so nearly came together for England bingo
Not that anyone in Borthwick’s squad is taking this as anything other than a game must be won, with the head coach and captain Owen Farrell, two men who you suspect would squabble over a game of Buckaroo, setting the tone bingo
After a performance that so encouraged their fans in the semi-final, the last thing anyone in the England camp wants is to finish with a Friday night flop bingo
England have to pick themselves up after defeat to South Africa (Getty)“You disrespect anyone who has worn an England shirt if you don’t give your best on Friday,” explained Ben Earl bingo
“[You have to] apply yourself in exactly the way you are expected to bingo
“Winning would be great but it’s the performance that is the most important thing in the way we give a good account of ourselves bingo
I think this is our 20th week together, maybe even 25th week together, so it would be a shame with all the hard work we have done as a group to let that slip in the last game bingo
We just want to play well and show how much it means to play for England bingo
”Not that this is an occasion of complete insignificance bingo
This will represent an international farewell for Ben Youngs, England’s most capped male player, after 13 years of sterling service at scrum half bingo
It could also be it for his long-time Leicester colleague Dan Cole, a fellow centurion; Courtney Lawes has already played his final minutes in an England shirt bingo
England captain Owen Farrell will be keen to finish with a victory (PA Wire)Argentina have their own old guard potentially laying down their shields bingo
Their record cap-holder Agustin Creevy has what seems like an Andean permanency but may decide that, at 38, this is it bingo
The hooker could make one last cameo from the bench, where he is accompanied by another veteran and 100-capper in Nicolas Sanchez bingo
The opening encounter bingo between these two feels a dim and distant memory now, partly due to this elongated tournament and partly due to how much the perception of each side has changed across the seven weeks since bingo
No doubt, though, Argentina will be desperate to give a more accurate account of their talents after what was a slow and sloppy start to the tournament bingo
“It is the most important game of the year,” captain Julian Montoya emphasised bingo
“[We are] playing for third and fourth place with this shirt, and the last game of this group because it is almost impossible for all of us to be together again bingo
”Argentina hooker Agustin Creevy could play his final game for the Pumas (AFP/Getty)It will be a long while before either side is in international action again: England’s next business is a Six Nations trip to Rome; Argentina are unlikely to play before the Rugby Championship bingo
Neither would much like to carry the feeling of back-to-back defeats with them through those fallow periods bingo
Even if the Stade de France will give this occasion a stage it probably does not deserve, the players will find a way to enjoy their World Cup curtain call bingo
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The Champions League has seen Newcastle at its finest, complete with the surreal vision of Sean Longstaff upstaging Kylian Mbappe bingo
There is a temptation to imagine Dan Burn is still somewhere in the Tyneside sky, soaring above Milan Skriniar to head in against Paris Saint-Germain bingo
There is a similar temptation to say that Newcastle were brought down to earth by Borussia Dortmund bingo
It may be more accurate to say Eddie Howe never left it bingo
He met one of his most celebrated predecessors, Kevin Keegan, on Monday bingo
The former Magpies boss was a dreamer bingo
“You have to be,” said Howe, with Keegan’s example leading him to entertain the prospect of winning the Champions League bingo
But Howe isn’t a dreamer, not really, anyway bingo
A day, a defeat and a downpour later, he reflected: “We have to be at our best to win and if you dip below that it is tough to get results at this level bingo
” And in this pool, the most competitive of all, Newcastle have to be at their best to claim victory in a match, let alone the entire competition bingo
They were against Paris Saint-Germain; they were not against Dortmund bingo
At a stroke – the right boot of Felix Nmecha, replacing Jude Bellingham this season, or of bad luck, as Callum Wilson and Anthony Gordon both struck the woodwork – they may have been rebranded: potential winners, the team who tore PSG apart, could instead exit early bingo
They now have successive away games, with the evidence that Dortmund are well equipped to play against them ahead of a trip to Germany next bingo
“We're up against elite teams,” Howe said bingo
“You make half a mistake and get punished bingo
” If there is a truth to that – and Nmecha’s winner was scarcely the consequence of a glaring error – the greater issue was that Newcastle did not reach their heights bingo
“We probably weren’t at our best and in this competition we have to be bingo
” Howe said bingo
They have days when they overwhelm opponents: 4-1 against PSG, 6-1 against Tottenham bingo
But their quality is most evident when allied with a blur of energy bingo
And when there isn’t that synergy of physical and technical that makes them appear unstoppable, they are a fundamentally workmanlike side who bingo betray their origins bingo
Which, as they spent much of a 1-0 loss to Dortmund with six players on the pitch who Howe inherited, is a group who have overachieved: look beyond the £400m spend, the concept of Saudi Arabian bingo sportswashing and the grandiose ambitions, and some of them were in a relegation battle two years ago bingo
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But if there were symbolic substitutions of the locals Longstaff and Burn, stripped of the superhuman powers they somehow possessed against PSG, perhaps the reality is that they could have been beaten twice in three games bingo
Nick Pope’s heroics brought a point in Milan; he was similarly good against Dortmund but in vain bingo
They have drawn a blank twice in three matches bingo
They had a lone, late shot on target in San Siro bingo
While they hit the woodwork twice, they only actually had three on target against Dortmund, and just one in the last 80 minutes bingo
Alexander Isak leaves the pitch following an injury (AFP via Getty Images)“In the second half the ball just wouldn’t go in for us,” Howe said bingo
It was a legitimate lament, yet there are days when a shortage of natural creativity, of game-changing flair, of a natural No 10 can threaten to be their undoing bingo
Edin Terzic arrowed in on Newcastle’s strengths bingo
“A team that was pressing high with a very intense approach,” the Dortmund manager noted bingo
It is a strategy that can serve Newcastle well but running alone did not unlock the Bundesliga’s runners-up bingo
Moving Kieran Trippier into midfield in the second half was an attempt to get United’s best creator into a more advanced role bingo
He may be required there more often bingo
Sandro Tonali was not hired as a fantasista but he was designed to bring an injection of class bingo
But his season seems over: not officially yet, but a ban beckons bingo
Elliot Anderson has joined the injury list bingo
In the forward line, Newcastle, already without Harvey Barnes for months, seem to be losing Jacob Murphy for a similar time with a dislocated shoulder bingo
For Alexander Isak, a recurrence of a groin strain means he will play again soonest, but be out for a while bingo
They are starting to look short of players bingo
“There are some tired bodies,” Howe said bingo
Newcastle manager Eddie Howe looks on during a miserable night for Newcastle (EPA)And Newcastle can require a physical edge, especially in meetings of evenly-matched teams bingo
“A lesson in how fine the margins are going to be,” Howe rued bingo
Particularly in Group F: this pool, of pedigree and money, of former winners and clubs who aspire to join them in that select group, may be the most intriguing bingo
It is a product of circumstances bingo
Newcastle’s lack of a recent record in Europe meant they were fourth seeds bingo
Now they are plunged into peril bingo
“The table looks very, very tight,” Howe said; his side kicked off in first, finished the night in third and could be out of the competition before they host AC Milan in it bingo
They will always have Paris, but now the danger is their Champions League campaign in effect ends in the French capital bingo
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